Thursday, February 18, 2010

Fort Jackson Poison Plot - nothing there

By Donald Sensing

FoxNews says that the US Army's Criminal Investigation Command (CID) is investigating reports of a plot by Muslim soldiers, enlisted as translators, to "poison the food supply" at Fort Jackson, SC, next to Columbia, the state's capital.

The ongoing probe began two months ago, Chris Grey, a spokesman for the Army’s Criminal Investigation Division, told Fox News.

The Army is taking the allegations “extremely seriously,” Grey said, but so far, "there is no credible information to support the allegations."

The suspects were part of a Arabic translation program called "09 Lima" and use Arabic as their first language, two sources told Fox News. Another military source said they were Muslim.
I finished my Army career as the chief of public affairs for CID Command and became fairly expert in investigative procedures. If, after two months of investigation, CID agents have "no credible information to support the allegations," then I feel very safe saying that there is nothing to see there, move along. Nor should you take Mr. Grey's statement as misdirection or cover. If there were substantive leads for an ongoing investigation, he would have said simply that the investigation continues and then said nothing more about it. Army PAOs do not do cover up, they just shut up. After all, as my colonel kept reminding me when I was chief of media relations for XVIII Airborne Corps and Fort Bragg, "you will never get into trouble for saying too little."

A word about CID. It is a major command of the Army, meaning that its commanding general (Brig. Gen. Colleen McGuire) reports to the Army's chief of staff. The full name is US Army Criminal Investigation Command, but the abbreviation is USACIDC, pronounced (practically all Army acronyms are pronounced rather than spelled out) "You-suh-sid-see." However, the most common referral is simply, CID, which is spelled out, "See-Eye-Dee."

The reason is that the outfit was formed in France by command of Gen. John. J. Pershing in World War One, when it was originally named Criminal Investigation Division. Upon being made a major command in 1971, the "D" was retained as an historical artifact and reminder of its roots. Besides, the Army already had (and still has) a "CIC," the Counter-Intelligence Corps, which operates under the auspices of the Assistant Chief of Staff of the Army, G2, intelligence.

CID is the Army's FBI, the Army's equivalent of the Navy's NCIS, which inexplicably has a TV series about it (a wildly unrealistic one at that). Its agents are very highly trained and skilled. If there was anything going on at Fort Jackson, they would have busted it by now.

Unless ...

If there is some substance to the basics of the story, and if there is a Muslim connection, then I would bet that CIC agents were also involved from the beginning, to try to trace the breadcrumbs of the plot (if there was a plot) to see where it led. If there was trail, the FBI would have had to have been brought into the investigation at some point, too. So those three agencies conceivably could still be peeling the onion (I guess I'm into foodstuff metaphors today).

But that's a real stretch. My gut tells me, "nothing to see here, move along."

Update: CBN News blogger Erick Stakelbeck writes that "five Muslim soldiers at Fort Jackson in South Carolina were arrested just before Christmas. It is unclear whether the men are still in custody."

There is not a scintilla of credibility in this report, not least because Stakelbeck is evidently entirely ignorant of military investigation procedures. Accused soldiers are not kept in "custody." Fort Jackson does not have a jail, it has detention cells for very temporary detention of suspects. There is no bail system in the Army and it is unusual for accused soldiers not be be released back to their units, where their commander may place them on restricted movement and/or under watch 24/7.

Usually, there are arrangements with a local sheriff's office for custody of soldiers accused of violent felonies; someone charged with assault or murder, for example, is not someone you want to put back into his barracks room under strict orders not to flee or hurt anyone. But you have to be dreaming if you think that five presumably Muslim soldiers, accused of a murder conspiracy, and held in the Columbia jail, would not have been reported in the media long ago. Trust me, they ain't there.

Update: As a commenter points out, accused soldiers denied release to their commander by the magistrate are normally held at an Army regional confinement facility. When I court-martialed a couple of my soldiers when I was a company commander at Ft Jackson 30 years ago, they were held at the RCF at Ft Gordon, Ga., pending trial, and were transported back to FJSC if they needed to be there before the trial. It would be very unusual for a military member to actually be held in custody at a civil jail on behalf of a military provost marshal.

As for Stakelbeck's claim that his information is from a "source with intimate knowledge of the investigation," that is similarly bogus. The only people who would have such knowledge are the CID agents, the post provost marshal, the post's commanding general and deputy CG, the post's chief of staff and probably the secretary of the general staff, CID's command chain and that's pretty much it. There may be another two or three officers, but only maybe. And I absolutely guarantee not one of these persons is breathing a word to Stakelbeck or any other reporter. That's what Mr. Grey is for, see above, and I'd even say that Fort Jackson's PAO is referring questions to him. (He works at CID's headquarters at Fort Belvoir, Va.)

It's important to note that the CID agents stationed at Fort Jackson do not work for the post's commanding general. They do not take orders from him regarding investigative matters. The post's CG has no authority either to initiate an investigation nor to truncate or end one.

A final note: I served with CID's Brig. Gen McGuire when we were both stationed at the Pentagon in the early 1990s.

My follow-on post is here.

Update, Friday, 8:10 a.m. CST: CBN has apparently yanked the story off its site:


11:15 a.m - the story is back up, almost completely rewritten and now saying, "It is unclear whether the men are still in custody" and quoting FJSC spokesman Patrick Jones as saying the investigation is still ongoing, and adds,
A source with intimate knowledge of the investigation, which is ongoing, told CBN News investigators suspect the "Fort Jackson Five" may have been in contact with the group of five Washington, D.C., area Muslims that traveled to Pakistan to wage jihad against U.S. troops in December. That group was arrested by Pakistani authorities, also just before Christmas
Sorry, I'm still not buying that there was any actual plot to poison food supplies at Ft Jackson. Whether the FJ5 might have been "in contact" with the DC5 is a question I will leave open - military members enjoy freedom of communication and such contact is possible, but has to be counted as very speculative at this time.

I retract none of my scoffs at citing an unnamed "source with intimate knowledge of the investigation," see above.

Comments closed.

17 comments:

Price Freedom said...

I agree with you. The plot to poison the food supply by 5 translators sounds like the product of someone's paranoia instead of a real plot. But these days not much surprises me anymore so I'm not holding my breath. We're going to need more info before we know what to call this. Now, if they were spraying bullets and jumping up and down shouting "Alahu'Akbar" I wouldn't hesitate to say this is alqueda related.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for a breath of sanity. As a former Army Brat, whose father and brother were both in the Intelligence division, the idea that someone just "leaked" something vital to reporter (and without substantiation) is absurd. If they wanted to report misconduct, they have other more effective methods of doing this.

vanya bellinger said...

Thanks for the info! We live close to Ft.Jackson (my husband is in the Army, I am a journalist myself) and the report was puzzling for me.

I know the PR office on the base and they are good professionals. I just couldn't believe that something like this would just slip away...

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Unknown said...

Thank you for a well educated explanation of this sensationalized story. Everyone seems quick to think the worst and check facts later. Appreciate your thoughtfulness.
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Steve Savage said...

Donald,

Thanks for providing a reality check here. Real journalists should do that, but I'm glad you were able to compensate for the yellow journalists who seem all to willing to run with this story

Breck Carter said...

"Chris Grey, a spokesman for the Army's Criminal Investigation Division, told Fox's Catherine Herridge that these are still just allegations, and so far "there is no credible information to support them". Nevertheless, an investigation is ongoing Grey said." according to FoxNews. I trust Catherine Herridge, and this sounds like a little bit more than just nothing. Maybe it is nothing, but it's too early to tell, even for you.

TeachESL said...

I first posted the CNB story on my FB page. Then I found the story on the Atlantic web site which questioned it, which lead me to your blog. I posted both of them as well. Thanks for being on top of this.

Anonymous said...

You seem to take much effort to refute all stories dealing with this Ft Jackson issue, but only offer anecdotal evidence of process to show how this could not be. There is a story here, albeit with little information, don't discount it until some more facts come out...if they do.

Anonymous said...

Donald,

Thanks for getting this info out there. It is important to show the public we are seeking dilligently to discover the truth, detered neither by fear or prejudice.

ParatrooperJJ said...

Honestly I have never heard of the military confining soldiers in a civilian jail. If they have soldiers needing pretrial confinement they would be transported to the nearest regional confinement facility and be held under military control.
Also as far as knowing the details of the investigation, the soldiers' chain of command would also have the details.

Donald Sensing said...

ParatroooperJJ -- good point. I remember when i was a company commander at Ft Jackson (a long time ago!) that I court-martialed a couple of soldiers who were held at Ft Gordon pending trial. Gordon did have a regional confinement facility. They were transported back to FJSC if they were required to be there before the trial started.

Lew said...

The speed with which this story spread and all the hype connected to it is a perfect indicator of why so many bloggers cannot be taken serious.

Yours is an example of the few that can and should be taken seriously.

We are in a battle for hearts and minds as well as facing a brutal enemy. The automatic condemnation and fear of any Muslim counters our very battle.

We need them on our side, working with us as many already do.

All of the anti-Muslim hype harms us more than it helps us.

Thank you for bringing sanity into this story.

Gene in RI said...

Even without CID experience the story doesn't make sense to me. My barracks were next to the chow hall and I can't think of a way I could have caused significant damage to personnel. Would muslim tranlators even know where the chow hall is? Muslims are usually given extra pay for food to adhere to they're islams eating customs. "food supply"? we didn't eat from a troth.

Shojo said...

If there's nothing to it then why hasn't the investigation ended?

Anonymous said...

I guess there are a lot of things us civilians who never served don't understand about the military: Muslims are given extra pay so that they can eat muslim food? This disturbs me about as much as the possibility that the poisoning story could be true and quite consistent with the hideous statement after the Ft Hood attack, ""Ft. Hood was a tragedy but the greater tragedy would be loosing our diversity"."

Anonymous said...

This obvious observation may have already been pointed-out, but did not the Army clear Hassan of extremely questionable behavior and even promote him afterwards, BEFORE he went on his rampage? Just because the Army has supposedly "cleared" these men, does not mean they are now harmless, IMO.

Anonymous said...

The following correction/clarification should be made: The USACIDC is no longer considered a major command of the Army [MACOM]. The USACIDC and several other former MACOMs are now classified by the Army as "Direct Reporting Units."